In this interview, Jesse welcomes one of his long-time favourite thought leaders, John Kotter. John’s latest book is That’s Not How We Do It Here! — a short fable that distils his decades of experience and award-winning research about how to lead change … and specifically, how to transform your team into one that’s both well-run (with systems and structures) as well as strategically agile (innovative, adaptive, and energetic).
Together, Jesse and John discuss key insights from the book, including:
The difference between management and leadership — and when each are necessary;
How to implement a “dual system” of management and leadership, to help the company achieve efficient and reliable results, while also innovating and adapting to meet future opportunities and challenges;
The importance of relentless communication to create and sustain momentum for the change initiative; and
The importance of effectively using story, brevity, and visuals in change communications.